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Originator:	Pino Carafa	Printable Version
Title:	Primary Schools shortage

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From: Pino Carafa	On: 2007/11/27 02:13:12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-gGxEvq0oE

From: Rem	On: 2007/11/27 02:56:27
Welcome to the "modern" world Pino. LOL Had the same kind of problems with my kids. My children (will) have the right to choose the religion of their choice as soon as they are old enough to do so. I'm not going to influence on that, and I'm certainly not going to baptise them for school's sake. Over here the catholic schools are open, by law, to other religions, even to muslims (makes me always laugh to hear a muslim kid sing christmas carolls during the school's christmas celebration). Over here, state pays the teachers, even in private (catholic) schools. If in Ireland the Saint Whatever School runs on private funding, they'll have the right to select the kids (or their religious background). Good luck fighting.

From: Pino Carafa	On: 2007/11/27 03:01:48
Thanks.

From: mac	On: 2007/11/27 03:24:48
ok, just a quick question (not a judgement, just a question). following up on Rem's note, what organization funds the maintanance of the 3 Greystones schools? (not asking who built them - that's obvious from the St Names) who's picking up the tab this year? is it solely the families of the students? is the the guv'ment? is it a particular church?

From: Pino Carafa	On: 2007/11/27 03:28:09
They're national schools, so that means it's the government

From: mac	On: 2007/11/27 03:31:38
yep - that sure wouldn't fly around here. religion is taboo. race, income, and sexual orientation is optional (for statistic purposes only) do they ask if your kid is a poor, caucasian, flaming queer?

From: Pino Carafa	On: 2007/11/27 03:33:41
Not yet

From: Hooligan	On: 2007/11/27 06:48:14
In the UK people have created phoney evidence of being catholics themselves in order to qualify their kids for catholic schools. Also establishing false addresses in other cases. ------------------------------------------------------------- You've got good grounds for complaint there in my opinion.

From: Pino Carafa	On: 2007/11/27 06:57:51
Thank you Hooligan

From: PaulHews	On: 2007/11/27 11:43:19
Good luck with the struggle Pino. It may be that the time is right for Ireland to embrace this change. Just after I finished teaching there, Newfoundland changed from a religious based school system to secular in the '90s. There are many benefits to be realized from the switch. http://www.religioustolerance.org/relschnf.htm You might do some polling of public opinion, because such a change would surely require public support, and it would give you an idea of the scale of the undertaking.

From: mac	On: 2007/11/27 15:14:00
wow http://www.reli...tolerance.org/clergy_sex3.htm#nf why would anyone send their kids to a RC school anyway? it's the same here in the US. the RC church is under indictment for covering up sexual abuse by priests. it's bankrupt many diocese. i am catholic. it's humiliating, but i would never let my child near one of our schools. and paying for the sins of pedopervs is not what i put my hard-earned dollars into the basket for! if this doesn't get the hierarchy to reconsider clerical celibacy, then they're asking for it to happen all over again. priests are humans, not avatars!

From: Rem	On: 2007/11/28 03:59:02
My wife works as a teacher in a catholic school, though she is not catholic herself. It's just a job whatever your convictions may be. The school is open to every religion. Her "students" (10 and 11 years old) are catholic, protestant or muslim. Globally over here the catholic schools are better, have more discipline. There are no priests or nuns teaching. Nor are the "students" taught any worship or catechism. There is a class though for "spiritual awareness". This just to explain how catholic schools operate over here in France. This doesn't help Pino, but may give him some arguments to discuss with fellow parents. Make Ireland switch to a secular system might be a bit to ambitious, but opening (or changing entry priorities to) the existing system may be worth a try.

From: mac	On: 2007/11/28 19:44:21
So, there’s an old priest and a young priest The old priest is going on vacation all week and asks the young priest to fill in for him on Sunday to do confession. Well, the young priest says, but I’ve never done confession before. What do I do? The old priest says, don’t worry. There’s a chart to go by inside the booth. So, come Sunday the young priest is a little nervous. The first person comes in and says, Forgive me Father, for I have sinned. I’m jealous of my neighbor’s new car. He looks at the chart, finds envy, and says, Say 3 hail Mary’s. Go with God. The next person comes in and says, Forgive me Father for I have sinned. I cursed my mother out. Again he looks at the chart and says, Say 4 hail Mary’s and 2 Our Father’s. Go with God. Now he’s a little more confident in his abilities. The third person comes in and says, Forgive me Father, for I have sinned. I gave my boss a blow job. He looks and looks, but can’t find blow job on the chart. Finally, he sticks his head out of the curtain and summons one of the altar boys over to him. Altar boy! What does Father give for a blow job? Two snickers and a coke! Tommy O’Connor goes to confession and says, "Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned." "What have you done, Tommy O’Connor?" "I had sex with a girl." "Who was it, Tommy?" "I cannot tell you, Father. Please forgive me for my sin." "Was it Mary Margaret Sullivan?" "No, Father. Please forgive me for my sin, but I really cannot tell you who it was." "Was it Catherine Mary McKenzie?" "No, Father. Please forgive me." "Well, then, it has to be Sarah Martha O’Keefe." "No, Father. Please forgive me." A minute later, Tommy walks out to the pews, where his friend Joseph is waiting. "What did ya get?" asks Joseph. "Five Hail Marys, four Our Fathers, and three good leads."

From: Pino Carafa	On: 2007/11/29 01:52:32
LOL

From: mac	On: 2008/02/01 04:17:45
The priest in a small village was very fond of the chickens he kept in the hen house out behind the parish manse. He had a cock rooster and about ten hens. Well, one Saturday night, the cock rooster was missing, and because the priest had heard that cock fights occurred in the village, he decided to question his parishioners about it at church the next morning. At Mass, he asked the congregation, "Who's got a cock?" All the men stood up. "No, No," he said, "That wasn't what I meant. Has anybody seen a cock?" All the women stood up. "No, No," he said, "That wasn't what I meant either. Has anybody seen a cock that doesn't belong to them?" Half the women stood up. "No, No," he said, "I meant: Has anybody seen MY cock?" Up stood five nuns, three altar boys, and two priests...

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