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Originator:	Paullkha	Printable Version
Title:	Please do everything, cheap

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From: Paullkha	On: 2007/03/15 07:38:22
Why do want ads for tech positions list 8 billion requirements. Is it really importnat to list ability to write perl and html when the job is for a Sr client-server devloper. Oracle back end and some app server front end. And then offer $55k. WTF? Please deploy our mission critical apps, write them, and the backend, which our business depends on, and by the way, here's 55k. You do write HTML write, know ColdFusion?

From: Analog_Kid	On: 2007/03/15 08:48:44
Its the same in every industry. If you know what you are worth, you have to fight hard for it. I've hired skilled people at half that rate, and I've hired skilled people at more than twice that for the same work. Usually, there is no discernible difference in the quality of work or ethics. Americans are used to accepting whatever is offered. It reminds me of my mother saying 'you will eat what you are served and like it!' I think complacency is our biggest enemy. "Everybody in America is soft, and hates conflict. The cure for this, both in politics and social life, is the same -- hardihood. Give them raw truth." - John Jay Chapman "These are days when no one should rely unduly on his competence. Strength lies in improvisation. All the decisive blows are struck left-handed." - Walter Benjamin

From: Hooligan	On: 2007/03/15 09:39:13
I've noticed that, they can't resist tagging things on at the end. There was a developer ad the other day, and they'd tagged on at the end that you needed team leading experience. Fair enough, but shouldn't such a pivotal skill have been at the start of the ad? Not at the end making it appear like an afterthought (which it could well have been). Another developer add must have been written based on a legal contract, because it said that you would be required to write code that was 'fit for purpose', a bit like an advert for a chef saying his food should be 'edible', don't you think? Makes the task of making your cv sound good easy of course!

From: SmallGod	On: 2007/03/15 11:04:41
typical.

From: hes	On: 2007/03/15 12:22:31
I saw one I loved the other day it was for a visual basic developer. Was looking for a desktop and client-server visual basic developer with at least 10 years experience(Cutting it close on when VB was introduced). SQL 2000 database experience, good communication skills, good documentation skills.(I know can't have everything) Bla Bla about the company Bla Bla I won't even mention salary :) Now the kicker At the very bottom This is a Visual Basic .Net position WTF VB.Net has been around for 10 years LOL

From: Baldrick	On: 2007/03/15 17:13:55
Typical for dum-dum HR departments, recruitment consultant bozos, and shit companies!

From: Hooligan	On: 2007/03/16 03:42:17
Company IT departments are 75% crap people with 25% quality people who do the hard stuff, was my experience. The difference between the best and worse programmer in a company can be a factor of 50, or even 1,000, or even infinity if the worst person is utterly useless. It's true! And it isn't that bosses won't wake up to it, it's just that they can't help it hapenning. The worst ever analyst programmer at my old company, a position they made me work for two years to get, couldn't understand AND and OR properly, and he couldn't understand any sort of nested if statement. He'd lasted 1 year when the company closed, with only a rumour of his chances being up. My current company is an IT provider, they insist on vetting peoples technical IT credentials more thoroughly.

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