From:  mac
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On: 2007/02/03 20:18:16
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scam, or new frontier?
The safe natural biological substances contained within the patches are used to create specific biosignals that modulate the body's natural magnetic field in order to enhance certain specific biological reactions that are already naturally taking place. The frequencies produced by the interaction of the patches with the magnetic field of the body are in a sense a code that turns on the body's production of energy. Visit the authorized distributor web site for more information.
does the term "double-blind" in this case refer to the scientific method, or that no one's seeing the "snake oil" nature of the product?
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From: coral47
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On: 2007/02/03 21:55:47
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Let's see:
3 'natural' references
3 words with 'bio' in them
2 'magnetic field'
2 'the body's'
add in 'modulate, reactions, production of energy'
and I think you have a new frontier in scaming.
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From: mac
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On: 2007/02/04 13:53:56
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yea, that's the easy answer, for sure. but is it possible? the world isn't flat, we can travel to the moon, cancer is curable, sooo many things that we assume are impossible are happening all over the place, simply being conceived, and discovered. in the 40's, we were begining to measure things that were breaking our "known" laws of physics and it took Dr. Einstein's "thinking outside the box" to get a handle on it. so, just because we don't understand it now, doesn't make it not real. if a blind man stands before a mirror, is his image not reflecting back at him? for "those who have the eyes to see", the universe has infinite possibilities; it just takes conceiving and implementing that vision to bring the "not real" into reality. maybe Jesus did walk on water, and if so, how? what power hides in the 90% of our brains that we don't use?
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From: coral47
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On: 2007/02/04 21:49:34
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Personally, I think there is *something* to all that stuff, I just don't think he's the one with the answer. : )
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2007/02/05 02:16:26
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LOL:
"NOTHING enters into the Blood Stream. The patches are based upon a relatively new science called Nano-Technology."
I think that if it *were* based on Nano-Technology, nanobots *would* be entering the bloodstream.
Verdict: Codswollop.
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From: Baldrick
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On: 2007/02/05 02:35:05
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It's complete bovine excrement.
http://amr2you....ewave-energy-patch-what-are.html
http://answers....com/answers/threadview?id=446473
http://www.muse.../hoax/forum/forum_comments/2526/
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From: mac
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On: 2007/02/07 19:48:59
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LifeWave claims to use nanotech to achieve this end. Nanotech is still
largely at an experimental level, and, to the best of my knowledge,
has only been able to build simple molecular structures thusfar. Has
Lifewave circumvented standard scientific literature and made
leaps-and-bounds advances in nanotech?
....
Here's my prediction on what it's going to come to: the patches
intercede with the body's processing of light. Current science that
sees the body as a strictly biochemical machine will have to come to
grips with the fact that there are many other more subtle interactions
with light and vibration that are just as important to the body's
functioning as the ones taking place on the biochemical level.
....
Think about it for a minute: the patches basically contain salad
dressing. How does this suddenly become a miniature battery, connected
to a miniature FM radio, broadcasting a special code over teeny-weeny
(ie NANO) antennas to more teeny-weeny antennas and radio receivers
inside your body which is ready to act on the coded signal, despite
the fact that the body does not communicate this way normally.
....
In the November 2004 Esquire. Susan Casey wrote, "Would I like to know and understand how and why it works? Yes, but lacking the knowledge, I will accept the fact that it does work (for me) and spend more time doing what I enjoy."
i might be trying them next week. i'll let you know.
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2007/02/08 02:08:02
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Here's an idea. Send me the money instead. For this you will receive a clue stick. Slap yourself around the head, hard, with it twice a day. Your symptoms will soon improve. Or at the very least, masked by the massive headache you'll continually have.
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From: beano2000
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On: 2007/02/08 02:49:20
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You're nothing but an old cynic Pino. How is something supposed to work if you dont BELIEVE its going to work. A man of science like surely cannot doubt the placebo effect? Even if this is snake oil the fact that you BELIEVE it is doing you some good means that it will do you some good. The most efficacious medicine is no use if you dont BELIEVE it is going to do you good. Do not underestiate the power of the mind. Accept that there are things you just do not understand and have faith. Peace.
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2007/02/08 02:53:46
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Tut Tut Tut Beano. More of that and I'll come over and slap you with the aforementioned clue stick myself.
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From: beano2000
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On: 2007/02/08 05:32:57
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bring it on clog boy
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From: mac
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On: 2007/02/09 14:25:55
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can't send you the money - gf already sent it to them.
but i'll take the glue-stick. i'll glue her credit card into her wallet.
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From: mac
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On: 2007/02/11 09:44:09
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day 1: 'energy' patch on at 8:00 am to see if it'll make me feel any differently throughout the day. i woke up with a slight headache - been fighting off something, so i thought it would be a good test.
by 10:00 am the headache was worse, so i had to take 2 Ibuprofen.
i spent an hour shoveling out my truck (it's been buried for a few months now, but i have years of shoveling experience from working in the foundries). hands hurt, not much more energy. in fact, an hour nap felt good after i was done. saturdays are pretty laid-back days for me (i refuse to work overtime at straight time, and i lost the last 2 quotes i put out there), so i got to relax the rest of the day. not much extra energy from the 'energy' patch. the headache kinda stayed in the background all day. gf thinks i was 'detoxing'.
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From: RobinD
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On: 2007/02/15 04:50:02
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>It is believed the LifeWave patches communicate with the body like a cell phone.
Like a cell phone communicates with the body? Mine doesn't, unless you count the ring-tone noises it makes.
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2007/02/15 04:56:47
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"ring tone"?
Is that the same "ring" as in "ring sting"?
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From: RobinD
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On: 2007/02/15 05:01:48
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lol, well it is if you leave it on the desk with vibrate enabled.
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From: mac
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On: 2007/02/22 08:53:15
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day 2: i didn't think i had any more energy, but i got a headache again. if it's giving me the headache, then maybe something is happening..... i just don't like it.
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From: coral47
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On: 2007/02/22 22:21:34
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>> gf thinks i was 'detoxing'.
Tell the gf she is right. You are detoxing <while dropping it in the trashcan>.
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