From:  alvgon
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On: 2007/01/22 02:13:06
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I'd like you to review the following article:
http://www.cs.a...nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
All of its links are very juicy too.
What's your filling about it?
Regards
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From: Baldrick
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On: 2007/01/22 02:46:40
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Very fulfilling.
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From: alvgon
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On: 2007/01/22 03:00:03
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ohh ... I seeee ... feeling in place of filling ... ooops!
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From: stone5150
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On: 2007/01/22 06:51:32
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Only way it was filling was when I printed it out and ate it, but then it wasn't very tasty.
It sounds like paranoid MS bashing to me. I am sure there is some truth to it, but like any proctection, someone will figure out how to get around it, probably about an hour after Vista is released.
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From: rspahitz
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On: 2007/01/23 00:06:58
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I hear that Vista requires you to go through hoops to register it, and don't try to uninstall and re-install or you'll have to pay a new license fee.
(BTW...I've been away for a while and see you've made the site's main page look much nicer! :))
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From: Huntress
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On: 2007/01/23 01:31:08
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Well there's no fucking way I'm "downgrading" to Vista. I'll go to Linux (Ubuntu preferably) before that happens.
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From: alvgon
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On: 2007/01/23 03:04:24
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When I read article in detail, what pisses me off most is the fact that all and every hardware maker will have to adapt their hardware to comply if they want to be able to sell to windose-market.
That will affect not only windose users, but linux as well ... i.e. if you want an LCD monitor with a resolution better 800x600, that monitor will have all needed hardware to be able to be used by windows stations ... unless they produce two diferent version and you'll have to be sure wich one you buy.
Same with printers, scanners, digital audio, etc.etc.
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From: Huntress
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On: 2007/01/23 03:11:53
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Well then, we had just better make the old stuff last longer.
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From: stone5150
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On: 2007/01/23 06:30:23
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The very limited licensing thing was something they were toying with internally at MS that got leaked somehow. It won't be implemented. There are a few hoops to jump thru but not that worse than commercial version of XP. It is a fight to get the people that bootleg dozen or hundreds of copies of Windows.
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From: rspahitz
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On: 2007/01/23 07:55:21
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I heard they withdrew some of the strongarm licensing from Win XP...I guess they did the same in Vista. But they're gonna keep pushing until they get their way. Soon, you won't be able to run Windows unless you have an Internet connection that reports back to Microsoft.com
I just wish the Linux group would get its act together and make a marketable product. I guess they're getting closer but not quite there yet.
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From: mac
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On: 2007/01/23 21:49:13
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i haven't installed linus's unix in years.
is the saying "linux is only free if your time is worth nothing" still true?
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From: stone5150
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On: 2007/01/23 22:02:55
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You mean Unix Light? Yeah, as far as I know it is great if you have nothing better to do with your time. The closest that Windoze got was with the driver mess in the early days of Win2K.
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From: rspahitz
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On: 2007/01/24 00:00:32
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And I haven't heard anything from the Lindows group lately, or whatever they call it now.
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From: jake
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On: 2007/01/25 07:45:01
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I installed ubuntu on two cheap dell desktops. I think they were the cheapest dell systems I could get. Ubuntu installed without a hitch and I am very impressed with it. I only want the boxes to hang online to do email and web browsing, and some office work.
Over the past two years I have installed 3 linux servers in my business. One is serving "wiki" style websites using Apache - MySQL, and PHP. One is my general file server, one is a box to back up data from the other two.
I am beyond impressed with how the systems perform. I don't think I will ever have another Windows box as any kind of server.
There was somewhat of a learning curve, but with web based tools available to manage the systems, it really isn't that difficult. I do virtually everything to the servers via web browsing. I do most of the management completely remotely. There are no keyboards, mice, or monitors attached to any of my servers. I use Webmin for most things, WinSCP for some file management, and Putty for any command line stuff I need to do (not very much because of webmin)
For basic office computers, I will probably move forward with ubuntu. I will always have to maintain some windows stations to run windows only software, but I am about through with Windows for basic office systems. I am beta testing the ubuntu systems to see how they hold up against viruses, etc. So far I haven't had any problems with them.
I find that the Linux stuff is solidifying very rapidly, and I can't imagine why anyone would continue to pay the Microsoft Tax when inexpensive alternatives now exist. I don't envision that there will ever be life without Microsoft completely, but I do think that the Linux desktop is very close at hand, and that Microsoft is sealing their own doom with their licensing and pricing policies.
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From: rspahitz
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On: 2007/01/25 09:43:07
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>I will always have to maintain some windows stations to run windows only software
I heard that there are now some Windows emulators on Linux. Maybe you could use those if all you want are the applications. I'm starting to consider this rather than Vista.
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From: Baldrick
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On: 2007/02/12 02:40:48
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http://www.bit-...2007/02/10/not_enjoying_the_view
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From: stone5150
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On: 2007/02/12 08:26:30
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Baldy,
That link is several days out of date. Throw that old arse piece of shit away and get a new one already, you goddamn slacker!
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