From:  Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/18 12:29:24
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Hello folks,
I'm very confoozed. And I need a bit of help.
I'm having a spot of trouble with the New PC. It freezes occasionally.
Komplett are telling me now that I should "Flash the BIOS".
Woohoo. Can I have chips with that please?
Anyhow.
I'm going to the manufacturer's web site:
http://www.msi....pt_bos_detail.php?UID=731&kind=1
Lovely. I download the fecker. Read the instructions which talk about "Award BIOS Flash Procedure" and "AMI BIOS Flash Procedure"
What's the difference? What I noticed is that in one case it's talking about running:
awdfl865 "BIOS File"
and in the other case it's
adsfi719 "BIOS File"
So let me get this right.....
To flash the BIOS you need two things, a "flash utility" and a "BIOS File". How do you know what Flash Utility to use? Now when I start up the PC it does yabber on about "Award ...." so I reckon it's the Award one. Am I right?
Problem is, the Zip file I downloaded doesn't contain either a "awdfl" file, OR an "adsfi" one. It contains something named:
Afud408.exe
Yippee. Well I tried it and it complained "BIOS doesn't support AFU Utility" or something like that.
Now what!?
Can I download the AWDFL865.exe separately from somewhere else!?
Thanks
Pino
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From: Huntress
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On: 2006/09/18 13:52:17
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What's the model of the mobo?
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/18 14:23:09
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ROTFLMAO
OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY.
I'm pissing my pants here folks.
No fucking WONDER I can't get it to flash the feckin' BIOS.
MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You see.....
THIS is what I ordered:
http://www.msi....pt_bos_detail.php?UID=731&kind=1
THAT is what's actually in the PC.
http://www2.abi...NAME=KN9+SLI&fMTYPE=Socket%20AM2
I kid you not.
Now the Mobo that's in there is actually 40 euro more expensive. But is it 40 euro BETTER!?!?
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From: Huntress
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On: 2006/09/18 14:37:54
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That's a completely different brand!!! LOL
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/18 14:45:04
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Yup.
Well here we are. After the Flash....
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From: Huntress
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On: 2006/09/18 14:51:55
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lol Looks like you made it through ok. And yes, it's a much better mobo.
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/18 15:03:29
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Sleeping dogs then, eh?
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From: Huntress
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On: 2006/09/18 15:12:22
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You betcha! 
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From: hes
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On: 2006/09/18 17:07:53
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That's why I order the mobo seperately and install it myself LOL
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/18 23:20:12
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PCIE voltage still climbs to 1.7
I think I shall be demanding a replacement. Face it. Better a mobo that is nominally less good, but that doesn't cause trouble, than *this* crap.
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From: Baldrick
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On: 2006/09/19 01:12:32
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Looks like you're not alone...
http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?t=112118
http://www.newe...gReview.asp?Item=N82E16813127236
The only common factor I can see is that people having no problems with the board are running it with high-spec DDR2-800 memory by top-notch brands like Corsair and Crucial.
A very good mainboard write-up at http://enthusia...art=MTEyMywxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA== also mentions that the board exhibited stability issues under heavy load.
The forum is worth visiting, they mention a BIOS release (14) which looks like it may sort out many stability issues at:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1089025
Edit: The cynical side of me suggests this is perhaps why you received this mainboard as an alternative... maybe the supplier has an issue with customer returns...
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/19 01:27:41
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Yup. That's exactly what I think.
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From: Baldrick
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On: 2006/09/19 01:28:27
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Dang, write up link doesn't work, try enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTEzOSw0LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
When I click on a link the URLs are lowercased which I suspect is causing the problem (running IE7 RC1).
It's a shame (and possibly worth persevering a bit) because it's very well specced, and a very good performer. If the latest BIOS sorts out the (alleged) problems with various memory timings, you could have a steal on your hands there...
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/19 01:41:24
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> If the latest BIOS
According to t'website it's version 1.5. That right?
I flashed to that. Hasn't crashed yet, but I've only booted it up once since, so that hardly counts. The PCIE voltage happily climbs up and up though. Just like before.
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From: Baldrick
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On: 2006/09/19 02:47:42
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Looks right to me. I reckon the PCIe voltage may be a red herring - am I right in assuming you've got quite a powerful video card? Are any system hangs correlated to intensive video performance? In fact, is the CPU / Video / memory / PSU rating all in accordance with these:
http://www2.abi....tw/test-report/kn9_series.htm?1
http://www2.abi....tw/test-report/kn9_series.htm?2
http://www2.abi....tw/test-report/kn9_series.htm?6
http://www2.abi...tw/test-report/kn9_series.htm?10
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From: Huntress
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On: 2006/09/19 02:49:04
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Baldrick is right about the ASUS being a better board. I always get ABit and ASUS mixed up, which I shouldn't since I'm running an ASUS myself now. Used to swear by Giga-Byte boards until they went downhill recently.
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From: Huntress
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On: 2006/09/19 02:50:45
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It's an SLI board so that might be the source of higher voltages. Most SLI video cards need their own power from the PSU though.
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/19 03:33:13
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Hm.
Dear Sir,
According to our PC Builder engineer:
"I would recommend that the customer first tries to see if his system works stable now.
The mainboard is my mistake because the MSI mainboard had a overheating problem (production fault).
That's why it was changed for the Abit (EUR 30 upgrade)"
Hope this helps and sorry for the inconvenience caused.
Best regards
Komplett
Yeah.
My response:
I could give it a try, but I'm very worried. The climbing PCIE voltages *can't* be right. And I've found several posts through google where people are having similar issues:
This, in fact, sounds *exactly* like what I'm suffering:
http://forum.ab...m/showthread.php?t=112118&page=3
From reading the lamentations on that, it sounds like it's only going to be a matter of time before it goes belly up on me.
Somebody mentioned USB "lockups". I think I experienced those too.
I will give it a try, but if I am getting any more crap from this mobo, I'll be looking for a refund.
Regards
Pino Carafa
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/19 07:39:01
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Komplett say they're happy to refund. Which means I can just go and order another board.
Now you're all talking about ASUS? What about this one for a replacement:
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=321031
I know it's also an SLI, but the non-SLI one is not currently in stock.... And Komplett will want their old board back as soon as poss...
Cheers
P
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/19 09:52:41
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Hm. I just read through the whole forum thread and changed my mind to.....
https://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=321030
Two of them went for it. One at least seems very happy......
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From: Baldrick
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On: 2006/09/19 11:04:00
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The nVidia 590 chipset is slightly more mature and more stable AFAIK. It's their highest-end AMD chipset AFAIK. Should be too, for 200 euro. Shame it's out of stock. If they offer you this badboy, I'd snap it up in an instant.
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From: Baldrick
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On: 2006/09/19 11:09:51
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PS. "rozeboosje" ?
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/19 11:17:27
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> Shame it's out of stock
That's because I picked up the last one 
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/19 11:18:26
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rozeboosje - a name I commonly use on line. Also my YIM id, and the one I use on google mail. Er.... it's named after the cat, Ok? 
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/19 11:20:52
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Ha! And I posted that comment, and the bastard froze again. So the new BIOS doesn't fix *that* problem either.
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/20 02:10:50
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Wow. I just saw some reviews for the new board I ordered. I think I chose well this time. 
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From: dash
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On: 2006/10/04 00:51:07
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I bet you typed the order up in Dutch.
Dash
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/10/04 01:21:39
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Well, the new board is working fine and dandy. Had a wee bit of trouble with the software for the on-board wireless but when I uninstalled it and installed the drivers only they, knock wood, went away.
BTW, Dash, is that "Dash" of the "Robert, Helen, Violet, Dash and Jack-Jack" variety?
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From: dash
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On: 2006/10/04 01:38:54
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More like the "of Jack Daniels" variety.
Dash
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/10/04 01:52:10
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From: ytben26
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On: 2008/11/12 15:44:19
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So I Guess everything worked out ok?
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