From:  Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/02 04:35:01
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Switched on my good old PC and absolutely nothing happened.
Well. That's a lie. Lots happened. Fans whirr. All the usual. But absolutely nothing on the screen. Not a flicker.
Ok. So I gather, maybe the Video Card is toast? I take a video card out of another PC. Plug it in.
Nothing.
Just to be sure, plug it back into the originating PC. Switch that on. Happy days.
It's not the video card, so.
I've taken out all the peripherals. Even the memory. Still nothing on the screen. No error messages. No flickers. Not a pixel.
So I gather its mainboard has gone to PC Heaven.
Surely it can't be anything else? Or can it?
So I reckon it's time to replace it.
Now I've bought myself a snazzy new PC. Old "reliable" here doesn't need to be top of the range. I was planning to give it to the Inlaws who will do a bit of surfing here and a bit of word processing and the odd Solitaire game.
Ok. Here goes.
The old Mainboard is a Jetway 694AS. Obviously I need something that will fit when I take that out.
Picture: http://www.motherboard.cz/mb/jetway/694AS.htm
The powersupply is an Enlight HPC-250-102
http://www.high...com/product-ps-hpc250102-12v.htm
I might need to replace that, too
And obviously I need a new processor.
The case is medium size. I don't know whether that matters. I have no idea of the brand but I guess I could post a picture.
Alternatively, I could use an old Gateway LP Mini-Tower case I've got.
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From: stone5150
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On: 2006/09/02 07:47:36
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Check the power supply first.
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From: coral47
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On: 2006/09/02 20:59:52
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As long as it is a "generic" case, any ATX mobo should drop in.
The only 2 problems I see, might be:
1. if the new mobo has 9 screw mounts, instead of 6. And the case does not have the other 3 standoffs already installed.
2. getting the front panel wires hooked up. It's not usually hard to do, but can be a PITA.
Make that 3 things.
3. the rear I/O panel shield on the case.
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From: stone5150
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On: 2006/09/02 21:58:16
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Those are non problems
1. Anyone that builds systems regularly has standoffs, either the kinda that screw into case or the plastic ones. I have at least 100 of each.
2. You should get a book or CD with the new board or can DL one from the mobo manafacturer
3. The new mobo should come with a new panel that pops in or like 1 they are available, I have about 20 extras myself.
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From: coral47
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On: 2006/09/02 22:19:24
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>> I have at least 100 of each.
>> I have about 20 extras myself.
LOL So do I. But does he??
BTW: He has this as a 20 pointer over at EE. : D
http://www.expe...nge.com/Hardware/Q_21976200.html
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/03 02:50:48
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hehe.
Hedging my bets 
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/03 02:51:02
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And indeed. I haven't 
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/03 05:18:53
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Hm.
Look at this, for example:
http://www.asrock.com/product/AM2NF3-VSTA.htm
with a nice cheap 'n cheerful AM2 processor:
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=320777
And an appropriately cheap powersupply?
Wouldn't that be a reasonable replacement of the above? Does seem to have all the slots the old board had and appears to be a similar size?
Thanks
Pino
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From: coral47
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On: 2006/09/03 21:10:24
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Nobus already has you past this point.
Looks like you are good to go. : )
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/04 00:48:52
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Kewl
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/04 09:41:17
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Stone,
Can you elaborate on:
"The new mobo should come with a new panel that pops in or like 1 they are available, I have about 20 extras myself."
I can't make sense of that sentence....
What are standoffs anyway?
The old board appears to be screwed in with six screws. Actually, 5, the middle screw at the back appears to be missing.
The new board appears to have 7 holes; I don't know whether the numbering is always the same, but the old board uses A1, A3, A4, A5, A6 and A7. The new one appears to have a hole for A2 also.
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I've just taken out the old board. I think I know what a standoff is now.... 
Where would you get those? I gather you can buy them by the pound
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/04 09:47:32
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Actually, the middle one at the back (A3) is not missing, it's just a little hooky thing rather than a screw...
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From: PaulHews
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On: 2006/09/04 11:35:34
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Here's a page that explains the I/O pop in templates.
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/case/partsIO-c.html
It's listed as included with the new mb you mentioned under accessories. Just make sure your old case has a panel that you can knock out. (It should.)
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From: stone5150
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On: 2006/09/04 11:53:55
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Plastic Mobo standoffs
Metal mobo standoffs
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/04 15:03:30
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Those are the ones I have.
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/09 04:07:14
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Yeehaw. Got all the goodies and got them working.
BTW, stone, coral47 was right. Putting the little wires back is a PITA. Especially the power led, which in my case is wired into a three-way connector (middle bit empty) whereas the mobo has two pins right beside each other, i.e. geared toward a two-way connector...
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From: stone5150
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On: 2006/09/09 08:20:29
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You usually get a book or CD with a diagram that makes it easy. Probably not easy the first time I guess. So you are no longer a virgin?
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From: Pino Carafa
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On: 2006/09/09 12:14:18
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Nope. I built my own PC last night. Woohoo!!!!
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From: coral47
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On: 2006/09/09 23:15:16
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Excellent news. We will make a hardware geek out of you yet. ; )
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